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wow you're a curmudgeon. LOL You still have an outhouse and stockpile ammo in the barricades behind the earth hut? j/k Technology moves on. Studfinders, laser levels, compact discs, coffee makers...... its called human evolution, time savers, etc. they do have WIRELESS PHONES these days. pretty cool stuff. drivethru's for your burgers

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kelly clarkson has a yugo?

damn, she's ugly. "I just couldn't keep from running my hands along that instrument panel." again, and i've said this many times.....people (especially women) form their biggest impressions of a car / carmaker / from how well they do their interiors. interiors is the #1 influencer in what gives brands their cache. look at how much she was humidifying over the interior of this thing.

13.2 13.2 13.2 13.2 yes, you are right about that.

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they should have given up on the HV engines 10 years ago.

is there a michelle Wii edition? i'm not getting one. my PONG works fine.

there was a family that was held hostage in a well to do suburb here recently. then, the gunman/whatever forced them into a car and to go to the bank and withdraw money to rob. the family that was victimized, it was a CEO of a corporation. my guess, is this is not the only incident like this that has or will happen. My bet is it increases. and i think its a product of the widening gap. you don't condone or want to see it happen, but in some ways those 'competitive' execs might find out that open hostility and crime towards them will become an ever increasing part of the 'competitive environment'.

as much as ford botched this vehicle, its a bigger botch to make the ugly fairlane and kill this thing. all they need to do is fix a few things. and yes, maybe it should exist as a mercury. the third row cupholders kick ass. imagine how nice the lambdas will be.

fly, before i got my 500, it was the FS i was looking at. yes, the cvt is smooth, it just doesn't have enough power to work with, although it does an impeccable job with what it does have. the FS weighs about 3-400 pounds more than the 500, so i went sedan and wanted the extra speed that goes with it. anyways, i assume your freestyle has the revised cvt programming otheriwse you would have mentioned more about slow starts. just like the 6 speed on the 500, the freestyle's cvt was originally set to market so you'd have to FLOOR it to get the CVT to 'downshift' aggressively. Maybe now its better. Even so, passing acceleration needs help because of the low hp engine. Its not a complete dog, you just do notice how underpowered AT TIMES it can be compared to say, a Maxima. And you need to learn where to put the throttle exactly to get it to respond how you want, i.e. if you just want a steady surge in rpms, or a big burst in rpms, or gradual non-fussy acceleration. And I did not ever drive a Murano but I have heard the Murano w/ CVT is not really any faster than the FS w/ CVT, if you believe that. And the FS gets great mpg I hear. If its like my 500, and it has the CVT on top of that, you should see at least 20 and maybe 22-23. IN TOWN. the freestyle handles decently for such a large ride. it does feel more like a station wagon/sedan. In fact, i think its set up to steer quicker than the 500's. The interior of the FS is more agreeable than the 500, but probly still has the dash glare. the 3 row packaging is just about perfect and the seats are nice and firm but not too shapely. I bet the radio sucks huge. The thrid row seats if you have the split folding ones are quite trick. There is a usable trunk behind the 3rd row. Folded, its still good size, but i know the lambdas will be a fair amount bigger. its dull to look at. I think Ford was going after the Subaru forester look, bloated. They may have pulled it off. The engine is noisy I bet. But below 2000 rpm it should be fairly quiet. Its too bad ford botched parts of this thing. The packaging concept is good. It needs TLC. the duratec 35 should fix the engine woes. Its lighter than the edge. Is yours a FWD? it doesn't surprise me about the sonata. the first time i saw a new sonata i could tell it was garbage. that battleship gray is tasty, isn't it. inside and out. someone could puke in a gray ford and no one would ever know.

that interior is somewhat tasty in those pics. why does it look like feces in black? not a fan of the 2000 buttons on the center stack those.

see QUEST. raise roof + arch = more headroom and cargo room. edit- carbiz beat me to it. just looks excessive.

by the way, its been said the outlook / acadia have similar wheelbase and size to a minivan, this is true. I also think the curb weights are close. So I bet with the 275hp mill and new chassis, the Lambdas should outperform these vans and give better numbers. Let's see how the Saturn Outlook stacks up against the existing competition - Length - 200.7 Width - 78.2 Height - 69.9 Wheelbase - 118.9 Weight - 4722 lbs Cargo vol - 117 cu ft Seating Capacity - 7 or 8 Horsepower - 267 hp Mileage - 17/25 2006 Chrysler Town & Country Limited / 2006 Honda Odyssey Touring / 2006 Kia Sedona / 2007 Nissan Quest 3.5 SE / 2006 Toyota Sienna XLE AWD Limited Length, in. 200.5 / 201.0 / 202.0 / 204.1 / 200 Width, in. 78.6 / 77.1 / 78.1 / 77.6 / 77.4 Height, in. 68.8 / 70.0 / 69.3 / 71.9 / 68.9 Wheelbase, in. 119.3 / 118.1 / 118.9 / 124.0 / 119.3 Curb Weight, lbs. 4452 / 4703 / 4729 / 4518 / 4630

I have driven the new Sedona and despite its positive improvements, I can confirm what you say. Its still junky. In five years a family of four will have one reduced to rubble. The carpet and seat cloth will be shot, the plastic will be warped and brittle, and all the swtichgear will be loose and hatched. the sheet metal will be all dinged up and the paint will be dull and worn. And the fact that the dvd's cannot be controlled from the front is laughable. Also laughable is the heavy ass folding second row seats. The Quest is a sportier drive, but is no complete peach. But it would be the one I would pick out of the bunch to drive everyday if i had to. The domestric entries are laughable. The Odyssey is not the kingpin everyone thinks. The interior is cheap and cheesy, plus its damn ugly. Dead fish look more charismatic. I'd give the crown to the Sienna here, mainly because it best hits the middle. My test drive in one made me want to drive screws through my eyeballs it was so boring......but I know this is what most want in a minivan. It has an inoffensive interior and decent plastics and many options etc. They upgraded the engine for 07, i think, to the 265hp thingie. I have concluded that there will never be a fun minivan so that is why now I say go Outlook and Acadia. Minivans in SUV packages.

i just shut off everyone's avatar and sigs. Shame I had to do that, but it was too big a pain in the ass to deal with the slow page loading. Shame now I can't see everyone's cute deals, but even with a 7 meg comcast connection it was a royal pain the butt. At least now the pages will load.

you misspelled sumetheen "CAM-LEE stih-rook-rike-shiht" the 07 altima i saw on the dealer lot the other night had an MSRP under 25 grand. it was the 3.5 SE with a 6 speed manual. As far as I'm concerned, that is the raging deal of the century. A large spacious well mannered powerful sedan with a classy genuine drivers interior and low price. No need to compare any others. The competition is done. Maybe add an Aura XR and Mazdaspeed6 and that's about all there is to consider. Accord too for the CR losers. The Camry is dung. Bu is dated. Galant can't keep up (although I like that car). Ultimately my point is the sedan class is so large, instead of picking one car, they need to divide it into subclasses when picking winners....i.e. sporty midsize, this is the top 5. Luxury midsize, this is the top 5. Instead the mags go towards their bias and just don't really reflect the desires of the masses, although IRONICALLY they greatly influence what people buy. And it's just getting worse. Its all because as a society we don't think for ourselves anymore.

yeah, we'll go in the tank, but as long as our people have the desire to remain on top, i think SOMEDAY the wake up bell will sound. the big problem is we need to change our business culture. so many deify our groosly overpaid executives. maybe what we need to do is burn them at the stake. We're all so fking jacked because Bill Ford had the balls to bring in Alan Mullally to run his company because he himself failed at it. Now we find out the massive incompetence they have at running an organization. Well, why don't we just clean house of all the overpaid nimrods and birng in some people who want to get to work and get something done right. And they would probably do it for less. I heard that Ann Fields was bitching about Ford the way it was run now that she's gone. Did she ever stop to think maybe she was a BIG PART OF THE PROBLEM? Maybe she should give half her pay back.

the quest is the best driver. you could really beat the snot out of it.

in the last 12 months 3 friends got new rides. 2 got pilots. 1 got an avalanche. both who got the new pilots reported the mileage i stated. they have no reason to lie. The other friend who got the lanche offered his mileage up to me unprompted. he said the mpg was awesome. this was when gas was 3 bucks. i don't lie and i tell it like its told to me. since that original report the one guy has nudged 17 a few times with his pilot but he still says its only between 15 and 16 most tanks. why would i think HE's lying?

I saw a new 07 Altima today when i was cruising lots. I almost did not pick it out right away. It was parked next to an 07 Maxima and they looked so similar from a distance, the average person would not know they were different. The only thing that gave it away were the tailights wrapping up the side. Anyways, its just an evolution of the current Altima and Maxima theme. Maybe they should have branched out a bit, but overall its nice. The interior however, is leaps and bounds better. Its borderline stunning in its visual quality. Gaps are nonexistent. Its very cockpittish. The black interior needed some lightening up, its too monochrome, but otherwise, for the driver, this car blows away anything else in this segment. The sticker was on a base SE 3.5/manual and was under 25 grand. THIS COULD HAVE BEEN MY CAR!!!! My fear is this car has now gone so driver oriented, it may not catch Camry and Accord (i.e. dull car) intenders. But its SO MUCH MORE interesting than those two cars, or the Mazda 6. Euro dorks who love Passats will still buy Passats. Auras are of a different style so I don't see cross shopping there. The Altima really is kind of in its own class now I think. Back seat is huge, BTW. The G6 and GP look like dung compared to this car....sorry. Its a great looking car. I would love to ring one out. BTW, the new Sentra and Versa are pretty cool too. You'd have to be a moron to buy a Civic or Fit when the Sentra/Versa and Mazda3 are around. I hope Nissan starts cleaning Toyota's clock....Honda's too.

i saw my first 07 silverado at the dealer today. Very clean, restrained, but strong looking truck. Very 'honest'. The Tundra looks sexually confused. And a bit bloated.

275hp and 6 speed and new interior and this could be a very enticing vehicle......now that we have seen the porky weight numbers on the edge.

my friends get 15 in their pilots, i don't see the rdigeline doing better. meanwhile, my buddy with an 07 Lanche gets 17-18. the RDX can't crack 14.