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belicheck=whiny bitch moss=done (trust me, he will suck now) i have to say i am impressed with Eli.

http://www.thestar.com/article/299753 whatdya think, carbiz? does toyo figure on a tough year in the US so will try to make up for it in CA?

all i know is GM has f@#king sucked in terms of everyman's sporty vehicles for as long as i can remember. ever since i had my 89 SHO i have been waiting for a GM car that would be as fun to drive. I have wanted a FWD sedan w/ DOHC v6 and stick and good manners. the lumina possibly was a decent car but had terrible styling inside and out; so laughable you could not take it seriously. the g6 finally came with a v6 manual but the dickwads in GM stuffed a pushrod and terrible shifter in the thing. WHo was responsible for that manuever? Now when all I f@#king ask for is something simple, a v6 car with stick and a little cargo space and winter friendlyness and they cannot offer that. Saab is too spendy and too small. G8 won't ever be AWD. For as big a company as GM has always been, they have never made an effort to sell very many specialized vehicles here in the US. The g8 represents an affordable enthusiasts car for people like me, yet they won't go all the way with it. Oh well. there are lots of manufacturers vying for my money.

but your pontiac dealer can service the sky and the chevy dealer can service the aura no doubt.

have your cake and eat it too...the hhr ss has the balls to the wall accel. covered, yet it will still get much better mpg than the truck. payments will prob be cheaper as well. http://www.chevrolet.com/pop/hhr/2008/sstu...interior_en.jsp check out those nice seats! if no go on the SS HHR, the reg HHR's have been very incentiveized lately although i am sure the astra feels more refined. of course, the astra is nice too. I want to try to drive one some time soon. I am pretty sure i would need more than the 1.8 to make me happy though. camaro.......you know, a v6 camaro with stick will prob net 20+ consistently driving around......

parked next to a new bu at the gro store today. wow its a snazzy looking car in red with tan interior. bravo!

wow, that design is half-assed/unfinished. the equivalent of trying to write a term paper the night before it's due. and yes, there is some ridgeline in there. conceptually its ok, but it needs AWD. toyota's ABAT concept is more complete and interesting at this point. you can kind of see a bit of where GMC wanted the styling to go, but comon guys. spend some time and do it right. None of this 11th hour half assing please.

or, simply put a v8 and rwd chassis and style it like its desirable.

holy $h! you have issues. man-o! i never dissed any of dcx's tech stuff ever. it's all cool stuff. i will say this....why do you suppose dcx is updating all the crappy interiors?

i've not driven one, but my gosh that description is godlike status. this conflicts with my extended rides in pilots in which i have wanted to tear out my eyeballs it was such a dull miserable experience. the onlything worse than my pilot experiences is driving the sienna which made me want to slice my wrists.

toyota really is pouring on the incentives. they are clearly obsessed with volume at any cost.

welcome to the 21st century, gadgets matter to people more than cars themselves. besides if people buy cars for 'a cool feature', they shouldn't buy for example, RWD only, or 'it has nav' or 'it has a chilled glovebox'. features are how cars stand out in the marketplace. no one should buy a car because of ONStar then I guess......or a third row seat, or side airbags, or bose audio, etc.

times are tough and lots of models are hurting, but anything with reasonable gas mileage and a reasonable chance for an average guy to afford it seems to be hangin by a thread.

what he said. exactly. the euro focus did not have the styling mojo or the cache to overcome the prejudice of VW bangers and rice lovers. it may have handled well, but there is nothing else exceptional enough about its feature set to make a dramatic difference in its sales to offset the investment required to bring it here.

New Kia vans start at 18 grand. Loaded with all the fixins its about the same price as a base odyssey.

YOU DON'T ????? lol it would be very interesting if Malibu was making a dent in the accord sales....it would be a first. a coworker got a new Aura yesterday. 4 cylinder, but they are Saturn bangers (i.e. nerds). I should have asked if he even looked at the new BU. I think the Camry is still fending off the accord fairly well. Accord's styling I think has not been helping. GM had lots of incentives (loyalty, GM top off) that could have swayed some buyers who were on the fence or motivated some buyers that would have sat in the weeds. I didn't see a big promo push on Hondas last month. The domestics have already said that they are going to incentiveize a lot this year to fight to keep sales up.

just have always been saying that an Ipod plug in, voice commands and decent mpg is capable of being a bigger purchase factor than 'European pedigree'. bottom line is ford is likely pleased with the increase vs. the investment, which is all that matters and it will carry them over in the 2+ years just fine until the Vervish Focus is on the sales floor here. If the Euro Focus thing mattered, sales would be down. Glad to see the taurus get some love, despite ZERO advertising.

vans are down all over. maybe GM was right to sit them out for awhile! the odyssey is the cream of the crop though.

Focus UP 44% BTW. Let's see, it's crap because it's not the Euro Focus. But sales are up 44%. blows that warped theory out of the water. And SYNC is not part of this equation.....? taurus up 18.5% EDGE UP 94.9%

mods please edit as you see fit. http://media.ford.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=27570 http://media.ford.com/pdf/January08sales.pdf FORD CROSSOVERS STAYED HOT IN JANUARY Ford crossovers pick up where they left off in 2007; Ford Edge sales climbed 95 percent and Lincoln MKX rose 78 percent. New Focus bolsters Ford’s share of small car market with 44 percent increase. Ford, Lincoln and Mercury sales totaled 148,355, down 4 percent. Total Ford Motor Company sales (including Jaguar, Land Rover, and Volvo) totaled 159,914, down 4 percent. Download PDF Download Soundbites DEARBORN, Mich., Feb. 1, 2008 – Demand for Ford’s crossovers remained strong in January. Sales for the Ford Edge were 95 percent higher than a year ago and the Lincoln MKX was up 78 percent. Retail demand for Ford, Lincoln and Mercury cars also was strong in January, especially for the new Focus. Sales for the Focus were up 44 percent compared with a year ago, with retail sales up 33 percent. Combined retail sales for the Ford Fusion, Mercury Milan, and Lincoln MKZ also were higher than a year ago. “We’re very pleased with this result,” said Jim Farley, Ford’s group vice president, Marketing and Communications. “Our dealers really delivered this month, despite a challenging economic and competitive environment. “It’s not going to get any easier – at least for awhile,” said Farley. “Recent monetary actions and the proposed stimulus package may help the economy later this year, but we’re not pinning our hopes on that. Our plan is based on restructuring our business to be profitable at lower demand and changed mix while also accelerating the development of new products people want to buy.” The next wave of new Ford products will arrive this summer – the distinctively designed Ford Flex crossover and the elegant Lincoln MKS sedan. A new Ford F-150 pickup truck will debut later in the fall. Ford, Lincoln and Mercury sales totaled 148,355, down 4 percent compared with a year ago. Total Ford Motor Company sales, including Jaguar, Land Rover, and Volvo, were 159,914, down 4 percent. Note: The sales data included in this release and the accompanying tables are based largely on data reported by dealers representing their sales to retail and fleet customers. About Ford Motor Company Ford Motor Company, a global automotive industry leader based in Dearborn, Mich., manufactures or distributes automobiles in 200 markets across six continents. With about 245,000 employees and about 100 plants worldwide, the company’s core and affiliated automotive brands include Ford, Jaguar, Land Rover, Lincoln, Mercury, Volvo and Mazda. The company provides financial services through Ford Motor Credit Company. For more information regarding Ford’s products, please visit www.ford.com. FORD MOTOR COMPANY JANUARY 2008 U.S. SALES January % Year-To-Date % 2008 2007 Change 2008 2007 Change Sales By Brand Ford 131,074 132,006 -0.7 131,074 132,006 -0.7 Mercury 9,296 12,604 -26.2 9,296 12,604 -26.2 Lincoln 7,985 9,594 -16.8 7,985 9,594 -16.8 Total Ford, Lincoln and Mercury 148,355 154,204 -3.8 148,355 154,204 -3.8 Jaguar 664 1,390 -52.2 664 1,390 -52.2 Land Rover 2,859 3,433 -16.7 2,859 3,433 -16.7 Volvo 8,036 7,808 2.9 8,036 7,808 2.9 Total Ford Motor Company 159,914 166,835 -4.1 159,914 166,835 -4.1 Memo: Cars and Trucks Cars 50,076 55,842 -10.3 50,076 55,842 -10.3 Trucks 109,838 110,993 -1.0 109,838 110,993 -1.0 Total Ford Motor Company 159,914 166,835 -4.1 159,914 166,835 -4.1 FORD BRAND JANUARY 2008 U.S. SALES January % Year-To-Date % 2008 2007 Change 2008 2007 Change Crown Victoria 4,431 5,424 -18.3 4,431 5,424 -18.3 Taurus 4,180 3,526 18.5 4,180 3,526 18.5 Fusion 9,183 10,529 -12.8 9,183 10,529 -12.8 Focus 11,600 8,035 44.4 11,600 8,035 44.4 Mustang 6,545 9,064 -27.8 6,545 9,064 -27.8 GT 0 62 -100.0 0 62 -100.0 Total Ford Cars 35,939 36,640 -1.9 35,939 36,640 -1.9 Escape 11,191 8,408 33.1 11,191 8,408 33.1 Edge 10,888 5,586 94.9 10,888 5,586 94.9 Taurus X 2,234 2,011 11.1 2,234 2,011 11.1 Explorer 7,217 8,876 -18.7 7,217 8,876 -18.7 Expedition 4,963 6,143 -19.2 4,963 6,143 -19.2 Freestar 0 1,072 -100.0 0 1,072 -100.0 Econoline/Club Wagon 11,333 12,521 -9.5 11,333 12,521 -9.5 Ranger 5,546 4,652 19.2 5,546 4,652 19.2 F-Series 41,125 44,919 -8.4 41,125 44,919 -8.4 Low Cab Forward 79 220 -64.1 79 220 -64.1 Heavy Trucks 559 958 -41.6 559 958 -41.6 Total Ford Trucks 95,135 95,366 -0.2 95,135 95,366 -0.2 Total Ford Brand 131,074 132,006 -0.7 131,074 132,006 -0.7 LINCOLN AND MERCURY BRAND JANUARY 2008 U.S. SALES January % Year-To-Date % 2008 2007 Change 2008 2007 Change Grand Marquis 1,963 4,053 -51.6 1,963 4,053 -51.6 Sable 986 1,190 -17.1 986 1,190 -17.1 Milan 2,453 2,662 -7.9 2,453 2,662 -7.9 Total Mercury Cars 5,402 7,905 -31.7 5,402 7,905 -31.7 MKZ 2,712 2,209 22.8 2,712 2,209 22.8 Town Car 206 3,124 -93.4 206 3,124 -93.4 Total Lincoln Cars 2,918 5,333 -45.3 2,918 5,333 -45.3 Total Mercury and Lincoln Cars 8,320 13,238 -37.2 8,320 13,238 -37.2 Mariner 2,341 2,633 -11.1 2,341 2,633 -11.1 Mountaineer 1,553 1,891 -17.9 1,553 1,891 -17.9 Monterey 0 175 -100.0 0 175 -100.0 Total Mercury Trucks 3,894 4,699 -17.1 3,894 4,699 -17.1 MKX 3,026 1,699 78.1 3,026 1,699 78.1 Navigator 1,665 1,788 -6.9 1,665 1,788 -6.9 Mark LT 376 774 -51.4 376 774 -51.4 Total Lincoln Trucks 5,067 4,261 18.9 5,067 4,261 18.9 Total Mercury and Lincoln Trucks 8,961 8,960 0.0 8,961 8,960 0.0 Total Mercury and Lincoln Vehicles 17,281 22,198 -22.2 17,281 22,198 -22.2 Total Lincoln Brand 7,985 9,594 -16.8 7,985 9,594 -16.8 Total Mercury Brand 9,296 12,604 -26.2 9,296 12,604 -26.2 JAGUAR BRAND JANUARY 2008 U.S. SALES January % Year-To-Date % 2008 2007 Change 2008 2007 Change XJ 202 384 -47.4 202 384 -47.4 S-TYPE 113 310 -63.5 113 310 -63.5 X-TYPE 99 269 -63.2 99 269 -63.2 XK 250 427 -41.5 250 427 -41.5 Total Jaguar 664 1,390 -52.2 664 1,390 -52.2 VOLVO BRAND JANUARY 2008 U.S. SALES January % Year-To-Date % 2008 2007 Change 2008 2007 Change C30 351 0 NA 351 0 NA S40 1,519 1,371 10.8 1,519 1,371 10.8 V50 163 195 -16.4 163 195 -16.4 S60 1,713 1,235 38.7 1,713 1,235 38.7 V70 167 257 -35.0 167 257 -35.0 XC70 965 855 12.9 965 855 12.9 C70 375 385 -2.6 375 385 -2.6 S80 865 1,131 -23.5 865 1,131 -23.5 XC90 1,918 2,379 -19.4 1,918 2,379 -19.4 Total Volvo 8,036 7,808 2.9 8,036 7,808 2.9 LAND ROVER BRAND JANUARY 2008 U.S. SALES January % Year-To-Date % 2008 2007 Change 2008 2007 Change Range Rover 776 930 -16.6 776 930 -16.6 Range Rover Sport 1,030 1,263 -18.4 1,030 1,263 -18.4 LR3 379 1,239 -69.4 379 1,239 -69.4 LR2 674 0 NA 674 0 NA Freelander 0 1 -100.0 0 1 -100.0 Total Land Rover 2,859 3,433 -16.7 2,859 3,433 -16.7

OMG, those poor minivans! They just started running the spongebob in the van commercials....I hope they help!

we'll let seigen explain that.

at least reduce their profits and send it to the states for money to fix and build roads

http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/01/news/compa...=rss_topstories