G. David Felt

Very cool, I agree that it is crazy to make a product, break it into pieces and ship it over for reassembly and then say it is local. Glad to read MB is doing the right thing in building them truly locally for the NA market. My gut tells me that more and more companies are gonna want to have core models built locally or face the wrath of the local country tax man.

Continue your hate racist spew against anything EV. My knees are not in my chest and I have plenty of room and if you understood photography you would realize it was a wide angle camera that allowed me to show that I was in the back seat. It is far roomier than you realize. Also if you had spent any real time with a Bolt and then gone to the new Encore you yourself as others also noticed that the doors on the encore are like a pop can, versus rock solid on the Bolt. I truly believe GM is putting resources where they see the future. Does this make the Encore bad? No, but when you see the encore as mid $20's and the Bolt at Mid $30's, I would expect a better feel of solid quality to it. Your welcome to your opinion about the gov we all have our own views, but more and more people want less maintenance quiet auto's and many want what Tesla S has delivered but in a less expensive package. GM has led in giving the world the Bolt and it will be a success. People have bought the Encore/Mokka/Trax/Tracker due to price, long range capable driving, life style and more. The Bolt will give them what this product line needs in a very quiet, solid well built package that will cost a fraction to fuel, cost less maintenance and give people an auto that meets the lifestyle needs. I am sad for you Ocnblu as you really have become that old person with blinders on that can only see a narrow view of the future world and will fight to his grave to not have anything change. Best of luck as at your resistance, the world will pass you by faster than you realize.

Glad you liked it Frisky, I hope you can make it happen to have it in your garage.

Yes if the selling price is stated is not to be over $30K MSRP, but it does not say you cannot take a New Auto that has a advertised price below MSRP which the Equinox does have in my choice. I did my best looking at new and used 30K and under. not everyone needs or wants two new auto.

Have to say that the BOLT is quality BUILT and worth every penny. I was very suprised at the Seattle 2016 Auto show where the Buick Encore I have always loved shocked me how inexpensive it felt and lack of interior room after having spent so much time in the Bolt. The Doors are solid like a rock on the BOLT, the Encore was like a pop can. The multiple seals allows for a very quiet ride plus a solid close. The screen is much larger than Chevy pictures have shown it to be. Very happy with the feel of the buttons. Something SMK has said makes or breaks a quality built auto. Here they are solid and feel like a quality component. Have to say I also like the feel of the shifter. While I would have liked it to be on the dash or steering column to free up space in the center. It worked and felt solid. I also like the electronic break as it frees up space for your feet, especially for us big guys. Rear cargo space is huge. I was surprised that you have small storage cubbies under the bottom carpet pad that covers the spare tire, and of course the raised floor that levels out with the rear seats down, but if that floor piece is removed, you have a very deep big space. So what does the motor bay or engine look like?Over all well packaged, clean and like everything else in life, full of electrically shocking stuff! Fuse box is in the engine bay, no fuses at all in the passenger cabin that I could find. Even the hood of the engine bay is insulated to help keep the auto even more quiet. Loved the 360 vision surround. If your not sure where all the camera's are at, you have two in the back, 1 under each side mirror and one in the front. Ultra wide angle so you can see on the big nav screen a 360 picture of your auto before you go into drive or reverse. Rear door One of the side mirrors Front of the car camera The camera is in the bottom black section at the top and I missed it the first few times as it blend in real well until you get down to look closely. Interesting that they went with the weird windshield wiper design that has them pivot from both sides. Never having driven an auto with wipers like this, anyone else know if they clean the window any better this way? Final pick is that with the front seat set for my comfort of driving, here is what it is like when I get in the back seat. Yes all 6'6" of me. Enough room to still go for a drive, Yes it is actually a couple inches between my knees and the back of the seat.

Very true, all companies will do what the GOV says to keep making a profit and hopefully keep the GOV out of other areas of their business. Balance, give and take is what is required to make all things better.

OK, I missed the part where 2 had to be NEW. 1 New and 4 used all $30K and under. So other than the 2nd NEW auto where did I fail?

OUCH and the stock takes another hit. FCA will be destroyed it the lawsuit proves true on the RAM and Jeep ecodiesel. This will also totally kill any chance for diesel sales in North America except for hard core diesel fans.

Be interesting to see if CARB when testing these trucks / suvs finds this or not. If they do, it will seriously hurt FCA to the point this could be what causes them to bankrupt. Yet with that said, like Drew pointed out, all ICE put out more pollution under load and he has no evidence other than what he is saying as there seems to be nothing posted to imply actual proof. This seems to make me think he read everything and says I have a diesel, I have Bosch emission parts, my auto must cheat so they must pay me. Or he is an idiot that bought way more than he really needed in a truck / suv and is looking for a way to have the company buy him out leaving his decision failure on someone else. Seems to be more and more idiots these days that want to take no responsibility for their actions / choices.

@hyperv6 Nicely stated, working together as all politicians did in the 90's to achieve success and balance is what is really needed and very much missing in DC as well as State, county and city politics.

Thank you, Have to say all those auto's give you allot of auto for the price.

First is a Used 2013 Ford Explorer 13,994 miles for 30K http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=98043&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D98043%26showcaseOwnerId%3D0%26startYear%3D1981%26maxPrice%3D30000%26firstRecord%3D0%26endYear%3D2017%26searchRadius%3D25&showcaseOwnerId=0&startYear=1981&numRecords=25&maxPrice=30000&firstRecord=0&endYear=2017&searchRadius=25&listingId=432507237&makeCode1=FORD&modelCode1=EXPLOR Second is a 2013 Jeep Wrangler 33,574 miles for 30K http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=98043&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D98043%26showcaseOwnerId%3D0%26startYear%3D1981%26maxPrice%3D30000%26firstRecord%3D0%26endYear%3D2017%26searchRadius%3D25&showcaseOwnerId=0&startYear=1981&numRecords=25&maxPrice=30000&firstRecord=0&endYear=2017&searchRadius=25&listingId=439789541&makeCode1=JEEP&modelCode1=WRANGLER Third is a 2005 Ram SRT V10 29,082 miles for 30K http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=98043&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D98043%26showcaseOwnerId%3D0%26startYear%3D1981%26maxPrice%3D30000%26firstRecord%3D0%26endYear%3D2017%26searchRadius%3D25&showcaseOwnerId=0&startYear=1981&numRecords=25&maxPrice=30000&firstRecord=0&endYear=2017&searchRadius=25&listingId=434965851&makeCode1=DODGE&modelCode1=RAMSRT10 Fourth is a 2015 Silverado 4x4 Double Cab 7566 miles for 30K http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=98043&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D98043%26showcaseOwnerId%3D0%26startYear%3D1981%26maxPrice%3D30000%26firstRecord%3D25%26endYear%3D2017%26searchRadius%3D25&showcaseOwnerId=0&startYear=1981&numRecords=25&maxPrice=30000&firstRecord=25&endYear=2017&searchRadius=25&listingId=432006371&makeCode1=CHEV&modelCode1=CHEV150 Fifth is a 2017 AWD Equinox LT 18 miles for 30K http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=98043&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D98043%26showcaseOwnerId%3D0%26startYear%3D1981%26maxPrice%3D30000%26firstRecord%3D25%26endYear%3D2017%26searchRadius%3D25&showcaseOwnerId=0&startYear=1981&numRecords=25&maxPrice=30000&firstRecord=25&endYear=2017&searchRadius=25&listingId=440085736&makeCode1=CHEV&modelCode1=EQUINOX

LOL, never cold, the all body workout you end up getting so toasty warm. Love skiing, He loves his snowboarding. Great bonding time.

Took my son and his friend up yesterday, had to rescue him as we had a 3 foot powder dump Saturday night on top of a 2 foot dump the night before and so the pow was so deep my 5' 8" tall son got stuck in the off terrain tree line.

Lovely looking auto even though I am tired of the coupe sedan look. The station wagon is awesome looking. Love that there is plenty of room. Wonder if they will have an AWD Station wagon. That would rock!

I have to disagree with you Wings. While I hate much of the Gov, especially the over kill on social services, the EPA could be scaled back and thinned out. Yet without these oversight groups, we would not be where we are today. Look at the oil industry and how little things have changed. Since Bush deregulated and allowed Oil Speculation, we have seen costs go up and yet no new plants have been built, nothing really has changed for the oil companies at the refineries in 40+ years. Exxon Mobile took in over 100 Billion profit last year. The stupid gov gives them billions in tax dollars for oil exploration and yet they clearly do not need it. With out groups pushing the auto industry, things would have changed much slower and in some cases not at all. Not a single auto company was willing to add smog control equipment till California started CARB and said you have to have clean tail pipes equal to XXX to sell your auto in CA. The auto industry has been very slow to change in comparison to high tech industry where we love to obsolete ourselves every 90 days or so.

If it was not for regulations we would still be choking on the unburned hydro carbons of the 70's. Many people want noiseless, clean EV's far more than I think you realize. Hold back has been battery technology. Yes many will still buy ICE auto's but you have to push along technology in the auto industry as unlike the tech industry where we try to obsolete each other, for some weird reason the auto industry seems to be happy to just do the same thing over and over till someone else bumps them. The biggest change in this industry has come from states and the gov pushing change. Otherwise like Europe, we would have terrible acid rain due to all the diesel.

I agree with what Hyper has said but also in reading the Bloomberg report and other repoirts including news releases from GM such as the plant that the BOLT is being assebled at has a capacity of 90,000 auto's for a single 6 day a week shift. They have already gone to 6 days since demand by dealers for the Bolt is stronger than expected. They will ship the BOLT / Ampe E to Europe from the US. If demand pics up to be more than the estimated 7698 units to break even with the carb board and to satisfy the emissions requirement, this could turn into a money maker for GM. I actually expect them to sell about 30,000 units in 2017 and even that I think is conservative. Course the story also does state that GM could also sell 10,082 Volts to get the emission credits so I think either way, GM is in a good spot. Like Hyper states, this is an investment in the future direction that auto's are going.

First snow of the winter finally hitting Seattle!

That was very cool, traditional old school tool making. Not the most efficient form of mass produced product, but quality that is hard to touch when done by a master worker. Talk about the muscles the guys have to have in their arms. Love it, thanks for posting.

I totally agree with the Miles Per Kilowatt. I think that would be a much better standard. I fear that because most buyers have a hard time changing their thinking from Miles Per Gallon to Miles Per Kilowatt since they want an equivalent comparison. EPA should have everything stated MPK on all EV systems and in the fine print say a MPK is equal to MPG formula. Let the consumer have the facts but this way it would then be able to phase out the comparison once we really make the switch over to EV everything.

@Wings4Life What we have is reliable, not necessarily the best. Best is always products that push the envelope to the bleeding edge even when it breaks. Computer industry has taught us that the best is always yet to come and we have reliable, bleeding edge best next version and the best to come. I agree that you and many others will help bring the future and we need to always embrace it.

Interesting read, Missing many critical pieces. I have to agree with BigPoolOG that the fund manager is a dollar short day late to the party of making money on the stock, so now trying to make bad news to depress the stock to a point he is comfortable buying in. Like Mr B has stated, this is a make or break model for Tesla. They should have Version 2.0 of the Tesla S out now and already be well underway with engineering Tesla 3. Sadly over promised, under deliver is what I believe will happen here. Having spent considerable time in the BOLT now, Tesla is going to have a hard time. The BOLT is super quiet, solid as a rock and going to really surprise many people once they get a chance to check it out and drive it. Many Leaf owners are wanting to trade in their lease leaf on the bolt now. I suspect GM and Chevy dealers will sell every one they get at or near MSRP for the first 6-12 months. I think GM will actually go from selling at a loss to a profit with the BOLT much faster than they did with the VOLT. EXCITING TIMES WE LIVE IN!

WOW, I missed this change in production and the zero effect it has on green house gases. Some very cool reading here: http://www.energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/hydrogen-production-photobiological http://www.nrel.gov/hydrogen/proj_production_delivery.html Ton's more of interesting reading. The last couple years the research has really changed the way things are looked at. I can now seen even bigger changes and this Nikola One Semi is a perfect fit for the future of trucking just like EV auto's will be a logical step for us also.