G. David Felt

As has been proven by so many companies that FWD/RWD is not an issue for the Luxury and mid market as we see plenty are sold every year worldwide of the FWD CUV design. If anything AWD is now considered part of the upper Luxury world for those that can afford the higher fuel costs.

How is it grouped with Chevy Trucks? They have their own Electric section and it is 2 tabs away from the trucks tab. Or are you talking about their www.gmfleetorderguide.com site which does put ALL SUV,CUV and Trucks together under their Alternative Fuels section. Totally understandable. Fleet sales are very different than retail sales.

I was curious and looked up their current 4 platforms and MB is stating that the MHA is was is used for the GLE, GLS and E class sedan unless all the news companies who reported this info is wrong. Just going by the news reports.

Who Cares? MB uses their car platforms to build all their CUVs. So Guess based on your statement of the Escalade is a cheap SUV because it is built on a truck platform or the GM900 series then MB CUVs are even cheaper since they use the low class car platforms to build them. C Class MRA platform is also used to build the small CUVs. E class is on MHA as is the mid size CUVs. Seems the G-Wagon is the only body on frame SUV they offer and with that you get next storage section, plastic ring with next bottom as cup holders. That is better than the heated or cooled cupholders in an Escalade?

Why would anyone want an even uglier small CUV from them?

SMK sees the G-Wagon as above the Escalade ESV Platinum. As such and since they charge double what they charge the Escalade ESV Platinum, He thinks Cadillac should have a V12 powered AWD with multiple off road capabilities that would slot in above the Escalade. In reality, GMC Needs a Professional Grade Hummer package for the Yukon that would cover everything the G-Wagon can do off road. Escalade just needs a V edition for both standard and ESV versions. They also need an AWD EV Escalade as that would trump anything MB, BMW or Range Rover currently has.

Honestly if you look at how many FWD MB, BMW and Audi auto's are sold, It is becoming very clear that unless you are an enthusiast like many are here at C&G, the drive layout means nothing anymore. You have those that need AWD for the weather of where they live and then regular 2wd for the rest. No more does it matter if it is FWD or RWD for the bulk of buyers.

Agree, I really hope this auto show season we see the two new EVs that are based on the Bolt platform that are supposed to come out in 2019 as 2020 models. My gut is telling me that they will probably not go on sale till late 2019.

Reviewing and realized that the Chevy BOLT passed 20,000 sold a month before they said they would. The focus was on 20,000 sold by the end of the year. With the Ampera-E sales and the US sales, I would have to say the BOLT is a hit and will continue to do very well in 2018.

Go figure on why Cadillac would drop hints that an Escalade V was imminent and this was all the rage in 2015 and here we are 3 years later just about and still no V edition. This is a failure of Cadillac leadership. It is not that hard to create a V edition.

@oldshurst442 @Cmicasa the Great @Cubical-aka-Moltar Perfect time to bring back the GMC Typhoon & Trailblazer SS which is a Corvette based SUV. Also, time to stop dicking around Cadillac and have a V edition of the Escalade as well as V editions of the XT line. Love this story from Detroit News about building a Corvette labeled SUV. http://www.detroitnews.com/story/opinion/columnists/henry-payne/2017/03/27/gm-built-corvette-suv/99676442/

The ultimate in Green Transportation and Transformation!

Totally agree, This would be perfect for Ocnblu who likes a new auto every 12 months.

This is awesome 1,103 HP Hennessey Exorcist ZL1. Comes with a 2yr, 24,000 mile warranty. Only 100 to be built a year per year as long as GM continues to build the ZL1. Freakin SWEET!

I totally agree with this in regards to real world testing to get the New Standard of the World auto for everyone!

Interesting, so a regular Lambo, add a ton of Steroids and the tiring coupe design for limited rear head room, leg room. Talk about a busy dash, but love the warm brown two tone interior. I like it, So much better than their cars. Be exciting to see one in person.

Nope far from it, common sense is what is failing from ads like this. In a 30 second spot you cannot tell me that you or anyone else can actually read all that fine print. So having a ad that says out the door at $28,500. These ads have ended up in the courts here in Washington state and lost every time as to why they are no longer allowed here. Many people do not read the fine print, do not have the common sense to read the details and only see as you state the Out the Door Price and expect that end of story. As much as I hate government oversight and big brother watching, there is a case to be made to make sure businesses do not take advantage of the average citizen and abuse the marketing. Case in point is VW ABUSE of the Green Diesel Marketing that is costing them dearly. What is required by law versus common sense and protection of the citizen are very much at odds to each other. Sadly we need to protect citizens from themselves as to why @CCAP41 and I believe these type of ads are deceptive and should be banned nationwide.

Drew, agree that both models are not base model, but from what I could see from comparing and reading the web site, base models of those two trim levels. I agree that insurance can especially if you do not own a house to take advantage of the added group discount of home/auto policies can clearly help. I see value here for many people yet also I see the flip side for those that preferred to not have ongoing payments if you are one that holds onto your auto's for a long time.

I understand the point they are making here for a just sign, drive and pay your monthly fee, get a new one in 12 months. Regular rotating income month to month being new and current for those that like to stay on top of the Jones Jones race. Honestly, this is the worst thing someone can do as you truly just throw money away especially as the cost compared to what really goes wrong on an auto is out of sync. Spent some time this morning on the Volvo web site and both models available under this program are very base version compared to what you can add on if you lease or buy. I guess some folks will see this as a way to always have the latest and greatest with no responsibility but I see it as a crazy waste of money.

I like how here in Washington, state law was passed to keep deceptive advertising from happening. The dealerships advertise their MSRP price or the current discounted price from the OEM on the auto and state plus taxes, title and misc. fees. This way you know there is more than just the price advertised in regards to buying the auto. Out the door ads suck as they are deceptive and if a person needs to stay in a set budget range and show up only to have an alternative and usually higher price, that can really screw up their budget if they get the normal car sales person pressure to buy. Plus they have wasted their time going to the dealer who deceived them anyway. I know each their own on how they interpret the ads but I agree with you CCAP41.

I think a better way to clarify the Lexus quality thing is they build an excellent product that is stuck at a point in time where others are pushing beyond where Lexus is. I get that some people are happy with a set standard, where others want more. I want more than what Toyota / Lexus offer for not only myself but others.

I understand what you say and I use my Aunt as one example but have seen this in many friends Lexus and when my sister went car shopping. The RX was a plastic nightmare that she found so many poor fit and finish and total lack of comfort compared to others out there. She looked and test drove Infinity, Acura, Mazda and found what to her was the best luxury in Buick. I have to say spending the whole weekend on various auto lots, test driving and digging into the fit n finish and what is considered Luxury was eye opening as there is clear disconnect between what people say (reports & Marketing) and what is actually out there on the lots. I am glad your father-in-law is happy with his RX350.