G. David Felt

Inquiring minds want to know!

Nice Ride! Awesome! love the look!

Pecking Order of the Jeep 4x4 systems? Thanks to Drew, I had overlooked the web page that Jeep has on their powertrain systems. http://www.jeep.com/en/4x4/ Now that we have this great resource, I need some help in figuring out the pecking order of where things line up or are similar. Why you ask? Easy in the sense that my son who bought out of college his first new auto, a 2012 Jeep Patriot Latitude Trail rated edition is now ready to step up to a nicer auto and has decided to get a Jeep Grand Cherokee. We have tested them and he pretty much has all the details hammered out except for one question he asked me. I have searched and searched various jeep forums and no one really has a good feeling for where the various 4x4 systems line up in comparison to other products. So the question is as follows: Where does the Patriot Latitude Trail Rated system line up in comparison to the Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x4 system options? Is it between the the Quadra Drive II and Quadra Trac 1 system or below the Quadra Trac 1 system? My son wants equal to what he already has and is not sure if he goes with the all black Jeep GC Altitude edition if he is moving up or down in the 4x4 department? If the system is above the Altitude Quadra Trac 1 system, then he will have to go with a higher trim level. He is trying to get as much as possible by staying in his chosen price range. So anyone know how the Jeep 4x4 systems line up against each other, especially the trail rated program?

Awesome Jeep, Nice Going!

So true, even though I am a computer engineer and love all things computerized, I still love my books in printed form. Heck, at least is the power goes out, I can still read the book and fix things by candle light! Printed Books rule especially over a Kindle!

Totally agree, saw an old Jaguar on the highway. Have not seen one like it in a long time, older guy and gal, all dressed up in sunday best. Very cool to see such old classics out and about especially on a drizzle day of Seattle.

@A Horse With No Name Totally agree, focusing on the awesome auto's.

Since I have no idea what you do, how is it daft if someone does not know what you do.

My bottle I drank last night while watching movies. I thought it was perfect for the crazy week I had!

Everyone has their right to say what they want but your statement came across to me in the way it was posted as negative and you never expanded on it. Just a negative reading post. So since I do not remember everyone's posts, mine I feel is valid in questioning you since you seem to be lately just ranting on how great the VW auto is. Then you post what seems like a negative post of how could you buy this. I am happy you find them great.

LOL, I spend more time than most on the lots exploring and test driving cars. They are a passion of mine and while I have not driven every single version GM has, I have driven enough to question your statements about them and have doubt about you driving every single one of them.

FAILURE, I doubt it will sell in enough quantity to offset the price of building it, shipping it and supporting it in the US. Like SMK, I am surprised by this and they must be grasping at straws for CAFE.

Kinda like the phone app you can use to track you kids and make sure they are where they say they are. Cool!

Yes he bought an awesome performing sedan! Do you dislike it because it is not a VW with a DSG Trans and a Turbo 4 banger?

Which auto did you drive that had the 8AT that you found what you stated above? Or is this just assumption because it is not a DSG Trans and your going on others comments. Have you actually driven the ATS-V, CTS Sport or Corvette that has that transmission? Smooth and performs extremely well. better than some german auto's.

Exactly as to why Drew did that thread on Costco Auto Line. Kirkland Signature Autos if memory serves me correct.

If they do it right, it should sell enough to cover R&D costs.

Yet the flip side of the issue here is that China owns one of the two big bus companies in California that is building pure battery EV Buses that we will see all over the road later this year and especially next year. You would think that if the Chinese auto companies are flush with cash and have a solid product, why not come to the US compared to Europe. Going into Europe as they are in a depression and clearly have excessive capacity makes no sense to me.

Yup, guess some places have to have adults in control, many places around the world are clearly lacking in that area.

True will drive it till they reach a point of either killing their own population due to pollution or they wake up and start fixing the problems. Seems fixing is their focus based on their very strong hybrid/ev policy for auto's starting next year.

Very true and in the process Idiot Serg will build resentment that will hurt his so called Italian Auto rebirth.

Yes, I found my Babies and they are not totaled or crazy priced. Monte Carlo SS Aero awesome condition, in my favorite color Maroon, 13K http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=456143057&zip=98104&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D98104%26showcaseOwnerId%3D563264%26startYear%3D1981%26sortBy%3DderivedpriceDESC%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26endYear%3D1990%26modelCodeList%3DCHEVMONT%26makeCodeList%3DCHEV%26searchRadius%3D0&startYear=1981&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&endYear=1990&modelCodeList=CHEVMONT&makeCodeList=CHEV&searchRadius=0&makeCode1=CHEV&modelCode1=CHEVMONT GMC Syclone Original Owner since New, Garage Kept 17K http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=98104&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D98104%26showcaseOwnerId%3D77376%26startYear%3D1981%26sortBy%3DderivedpriceDESC%26firstRecord%3D0%26endYear%3D1990%26modelCodeList%3DGMCSYCLON%26makeCodeList%3DGMC%26searchRadius%3D0&startYear=1981&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&endYear=1990&modelCodeList=GMCSYCLON&makeCodeList=GMC&searchRadius=0&listingId=414828402 GMC Typhoon 2 owners 14K http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=449015047&zip=98104&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D98104%26showcaseOwnerId%3D77376%26startYear%3D1981%26sortBy%3DderivedpriceASC%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26endYear%3D2018%26modelCodeList%3DTYPH%26makeCodeList%3DGMC%26searchRadius%3D0&startYear=1981&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&endYear=2018&modelCodeList=TYPH&makeCodeList=GMC&searchRadius=0&makeCode1=GMC&modelCode1=TYPH Buick Grand National 35K https://classics.autotrader.com/classic-cars/1987/buick/other_buick_models/100851868 I am surprised by this one as it is in nice condition and yet all others equal to this are in the 80-90K range. Crazy did not know they were going that high. Wonder why this one is so cheap?

WOW, Talk about a Joy Kill, you pop my bubble!

This totally made my day! It really is how I see the world and how I see humanity and for a Friday, what a great way to end the work week. Cheers Mates, May you all have an awesome weekend. I will be cracking a bottle of wine after work today!