G. David Felt

Yet our passion to move this forward for those that need self-driving auto's will continue.

@ccap41 @ykX I understand the points you both are making and also attempting to point out that many who had an experience that is based on an old auto hold it through to later years in still buying an auto. I also pointed out that there are bad built parts / auto's as pointed out with the transmission issue with the Traverse and Enclave. The point I am attempting to make is that many humans will take the lazy way out and do minimal if anything to an auto and just drive it and when it fails they blame the auto company not taking any responsibility themselves and then they state that out to reviews on how terrible an auto is when in reality the problem started with the end user. Knowing the History of japan manufacturing probably better than many and how they embraced the work of Edwards Deming and his push for quality JIT manufacturing has shown that the Japanese manufacturing can and does produce high quality auto's. Yet as we have seen in recent years, they can also produce garbage no different than US or European auto companies. With that said, I will always question CRs reports as I have had some of their terrible rated auto's that ran and lasted just fine and all I did was the basic maintenance and repairs as needed. The difference is I pay attention more to my auto's than most do and as many on this site we have a passion that is much higher than the rest and so we tend to be more vocal about it. I appreciate both of your thoughts and passion on this.

LOL, try all you want to play mind games with me, will not work. I do agree that Back seat room should still also be an important feature even on tiny CUVs like this one.

Poor CCAP41, did you forget your meds this morning? Where did this come from since we were not even talking about the back seat which I admit, I doubt I will fit in.

I would have to say LAZY AMERICANS, If you take a 90's Detroit 3 auto and followed the service chart for taking care of the auto, many would still be running. Yet, the Asians went to 100,000 mile tune ups and service when the Detroit 3 still run 30,000 mile tune ups and service. Human LAZINESS treated the US auto's like asian and when they died at 50,000 miles due to neglect, they bash the US builders as building crap compared to the Asian auto companies. Reality is if a person took responsibility to read their owners manual, follow the service guide and do what was required, they would not have had their auto detonate early in life. Fairness being that yes we do know that some auto's were terrible from the beginning. Blame corporate bean counters for penny pinching. With this said, I have never had an auto leave me stranded. I have always done the recommended service guide and still have my very first auto running strong, 1994 GMC Suburban SLE. Bias comes in many forms and laziness from end users has biased them towards one builder versus another. CR has never clearly taken this into account and seems to follow the same Laziness of humanity towards auto's by lumping them all into the same bucket. Just my humble opinion.

Agree, I think Cadillac has finally figured out a good layout for ease of use by the driver or front passenger. He does look pretty happy with her here!

@A Horse With No Name Interesting is that MSN Auto posted on this too and their 10 Least Reliable Cars is as follows based on the latest CR report. https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/research/10-least-reliable-cars/ar-BBOBgez?li=BBnb7Kz#page=1 #10 - Honda Odyssey - Trouble spots - In-Car Electronics, Power Equipment and Body Hardware #9 - Volkswagen Atlas - Trouble spots - Transmission, Climate System, noises and leaks #8 - Buick Enclave - Trouble Spots - Transmission, Climate System, Emissions / Fuel System #7 - Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD - Trouble Spots - Engine, Noises, leaks, in-car electronics #6 - Kia Cadenza - Trouble Spots - Climate Control, Fuel / emissions system #5 - Chevrolet Traverse - Trouble Spots - Transmission, in-car electronics #4 - Honda Clarity - Trouble Spots - Climate Control, fuel / emissions system, body hardware #3 - Cadillac ATS - Trouble Spots - In-car electronics, climate system, drive system #2 - Tesla Model X - Trouble Spots - In-car electronics, noises and leaks, body hardware #1 - Ram 3500 - Trouble Spots - Steering / Suspension, Fuel / Emission system, Engine Cooling, Noises and leaks Out of the same report here is what MSN listed was the 10 most reliable cars. https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/research/10-most-reliable-cars/ar-BBOBmst?li=BBnb7Kz #10 - Lexus GX #9 - Toyota Prius C #8 - Toyota Prius Prime #7 - Mazda Miata MX-5 #6 - Toyota Corolla #5 - Lexus NX #4 - Toyota Prius #3 - Honda Fit #2 - Kia Sedona #1 - Toyota Highlander I wonder ? just how much did Toyota PAY CR to list their company as #1? ?

Weird, here we have this story and they email out about all things positive and hiring. http://view.info.faradayfuture.com/?qs=45a9f9ea90f8ecc0eb61da5dba84374b2af3a295a65c9e7136b11a13ee1008d429fdd157e5ad8c43b3f86dda9ec8342580f258d71f51940dc3c8b80b38379d3513f959e256ed8c4c24ba911dd0ed5592

Totally agree with you here that they do need to do better.

Meh, CR has always been Asian Biased. I really have not changed my mind that CR is a biased based test company.

EVs can do a basic 4 door better than the coffin Smartcar. Time to let it die and rest in peace.

LOL, Dell Technology now owns the campus and is all over with DellEMC storage.

U of M is beta testing our latest version of Isilon Storage and hardware. Cool Peeps!

Weird, course I was looking on the Korean Drama web site, so I could have also misread her age. Course being an american web site Wiki has her age wrong as Koreans count from Zygot creation and so when you are born you are already 1 year old. So she would be 29.

MX-6 seemed to be very popular cars for the ladies.

But I left a couple box's unchecked. I will say if you select a package, I would expect by now as I know it can be done that the web site drop's the options that cannot be selected with that model choice. Leaving them so that it either prompts you to drop to a different model or says you cannot do this without first removing the other package is just stupid. If someone chooses AT4 as the model, they should only present AT4 options IMHO. The offer everything and mess up your truck choice is just stupid to me. These crack me up every time I watch them. Course I just have no use for cats and am a dog lover so that could play a part too. Bird one is priceless, could use that feature for protecting my auto's. SportKa Pigeon.mpg sportka.wmv

Can anyone say VERY LIMITED SALES! GM should now better by now. Is GM also converting them in UK for that market or building them here and shipping? Very weird.

My gut says 2019 will see this company die and be sold off to the Chinese company that was supposed to finance it. They will get it for 10 cents on the dollar.

Love Korea's take on Cadillac advertising. Course this 40 year old model does not look it at all.

Love this color on the AT4, the way I would order it, but WOW, the price is way more than I was expecting.

He is missing a real woman!

CPO my friend CPO!

Who needs to talk, she is freakin hot and I would not be wasting words on a hot woman like her! ?