G. David Felt

I can respect that, I loved the sound of the custom built 402 in my suburban, yet also as I have gotten older, I do not care for the loud sound any more. I would rather have the quiet with the space and room. As to why my 1994 GMC SLE suburban is my project auto that will eventually have the ICE power train ripped out and electric put in. Just like @Drew Dowdell loves his old car, some of us would rather have an old auto that is quiet as an EV. I would expect more older auto's to end up getting converted to EV than to modern ICE.

I understand what you are saying, but Tesla is so butt ugly. Those old classics are far better looking than any Tesla. Take your favorite auto you have fond memories of and think if it was your personal auto with electrical power train. Giving you more room and quiet.

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And some of us are older than you all #52feeling25. ? #AgeStateOfMind

That is allot of John's and you ended up a Robert? ? LOL

Yet the Econolines are still cheaper to fix than the Sprinter.

If I ever get a dog, I will look first at rescue dogs, but if I find nothing I like, it will be a Lab Puppy.

Kia has a new iMT manual transmission with higher MPG while keeping those that want to be engaged in driving a manual happy. Seems to be a computer controlled drive by wire manual transmission. Makes me think an fake manual auto tranny. https://www.autoblog.com/2020/06/26/kia-rio-intelligent-manual-transmission-clutch-by-wire/ Happy Birthday Robert. So glad you had a great day during this Pandemic. Continue to stay safe my friend!!! Woof, Woof, Woof to your little Fur kids. WOW, Awesome reading and video review of the 2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon with EcoDiesel power train. Shocking is that this fully loaded Wrangler costs $65,000 dollars! ??? https://www.autoblog.com/2020/06/25/2020-jeep-wrangler-rubicon-unlimited-ecodiesel-love-hate/

My sister and Brother in-law have an appliance repair company and after a few years went back to ford vans as the sprinters cost more to maintain and rusted and just sucked over all. Terrible product.

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Seems Auto Collectors are warming up to conversions of their classics to EV. Aston Martin and Volkswagen have joined Jaguar, Lunaz and MW Motors out of Czech Repulic in offering conversions to EV on their auto's. This company tailors to the rich 1%, but very nice to see these old sexy auto's out and about running. https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1128661_classic-jaguar-bentley-rolls-ev-conversions-no-gasoline Sexy XK120 would love to own if I could fit. Doing conversions on 1955 to 1965 XK 120 and XK140 models. These get two electric motors for a combined 316 HP and 516 lb-ft of torque. Moves the Jag from 0 to 60 in 5 seconds. 80 Kilowatt battery pack good for 250 miles of range. Imagine how quiet and sexy this is now with an EV power train. Lunaz does EV conversions on Bentley Continental S2 Flying Spurs, Rolls-Royce Cloud and Rolls-Royce Phantom V

Started physical therapy for a left frozen shoulder. At the place I spied this truck in the parking lot.

Dennis

Correction, this is NOT a Truck OEM, it is a Dealership and yes I could go out to Dealerships and see what they list trucks for. I was pointing to the OEM.

Charging in the West Coast with High Speed DC chargers are very common. So I would disagree that this image represents the EV commercial trucks. We are at the starting of a change in commercial freight movement. The Semi Truck makers just need to deliver beyond big pre-orders of start ups or existing OEM truck builders.

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So a Movie Scene is where you saw this Yaris? ?

Never seen any Class 8 truck maker listing MSRP for any of their products. Daimler, Peterbilt, Fuso, Freightliner are selling the trucks in both heavy and medium duty models. You can purchase through one of their dealers and order up an EV truck. The main point is there is product available now, product coming and it works with the goal of changing the market place from the current status of today to what and when they want a cleaner emission setup in the future. This has all come online in the last 6 to 12 months with 2020 being the start of shipping these products. The pandemic has delayed building / shipping but that does not mean it is not a real product for these OEMs or the companies that have already placed orders.

I do not expect the existing OEMs to follow the Blustery hot air of Tesla and their poor quality. Tesla does build a good Power Train, it is everything else that Tesla is lacking in.

Here is the FAQ on the EV fleet info for California. https://www.pge.com/pge_global/common/pdfs/solar-and-vehicles/clean-vehicles/ev-fleet-program/PGE_EV-Fleet_FAQ_Distribution-Delivery.pdf The Following companies have Class 8 Electric / Hybrid trucks available for purchase. Daimler - Heavy and Medium duty Electric trucks. https://www.mercedes-benz.com/en/vehicles/trucks/eactros-heavy-duty-electric-truck/ Freightliner - Both heavy Class 8 and Medium Duty trucks. https://freightliner.com/e-mobility/ Fuso - eCanter line of trucks. https://www.fuso-trucks.de/content/eu/germany/en/models/ecanter.html Dana - http://www.danaelectrified.com/ Used in conversions. Kalmar Ottawa - https://kalmarottawa.com/ Lion - https://thelionelectric.com/en/ Been doing electric buses, but have moved into electric Class 8, 6 and below trucks. Run with the Bull Meritor - https://www.meritor.com/products/epowertrains/ currently used in conversions, but working to expand into OEM truck builders. Motiv - https://www.motivps.com/ EV Chassis solution supplier to customer built medium and Heavy duty truck builders. They will also build custom orders. Nikola - Pre-Order Tesla - Pre-Order Orange EV Trucks - Conversion trucks Peterbilt - https://www.peterbilt.com/electric-vehicles 3 Class 8 available for purchase Per FTR in tracking the Class 8 orders everything is greatly down. https://www.ftrintel.com/news/latest-orders/index.php For those that are not in the know of what classification of trucks is, here is the full chart. Class 8 EV details from the GOV by state. https://search.usa.gov/search?utf8=✓&affiliate=afdc.energy.gov&query=class+8+EV Here is the EV Fleet site to help companies get the info they need and purchase EV medium and heavy duty trucks. PG&E seems to run this working with various states as needed. https://www.pge.com/en_US/large-business/solar-and-vehicles/clean-vehicles/ev-fleet-program/ev-fleet-program.page?WT.mc_id=Vanity_evfleet

There is logic, you just do not want to read or dig into the details to understand. Logic is a multi year plan for clean water, air and quality of life. Nothing is free, unlike the only care in some areas in the midwest and especially east coast is making a dollar at the expense of human life. Especially the ground water pollution and air quality destruction of the coal states. Eventually we will get everyone educated.