G. David Felt

Yes, my wife and I do this with the Android Auto and the interpretation of the voice to text message is crazy funny.

Will be exciting to see when the builder comes out on the kia web site as to play with the options. Kia EV9 | Introducing The All-New All-Electric SUV | Kia I think Kia, Hyundai and Genesis are hitting on all cylinders in moving to EV and leaving ICE in the past where it belongs.

@oldshurst442 @smk4565 Cyber truck is still NOT in production yet, the ones seen are preproduction. No delivery to actual customers yet. A few to employees they are calling customers, but I would say more like internal beta testing. Tesla Cybertruck fleet spotted ahead of delivery event announcement | Electrek 9hrs ago people are spotting small groups of the trucks covered up. I doubt these are production as production are never covered up like this but test mules are. As per the comments from the Tesla Fans, 9 covered trucks is not D-Day of mass production but maybe a stunt for Q3 earnings since Tesla could very well miss their forecast numbers. Oct 18th is Earnings day. Expect a cybertruck announcement then, but Musk has already said retail deliveries this year will be minimal, 2024 will be the ramp up year.

Kia EV day covered the EV 3 and EV4 concepts but according to other news outlets, the CEO has stated that Kia will have an EV2 out globally that will also be in the U.S. for far less than $30,000 2023 Kia EV Day | The revolution begins KIA EV Day to be Held on October 12th - Korean Car Blog (thekoreancarblog.com)

Stock price of Tesla is a future glimps of where the company is going. Hyundai, Kia, Genesis is hitting EV far better than Tesla and has newer tech and models. Tesla is going to be hurting by 2025 at the rate Musk is destroying the company due to his distractions. Even stockholders are now calling for a new CEO to run Tesla. Tesla Investor Calls for a New CEO As As Musk Shift Focus to Twitter (businessinsider.com) Ford clearly has mis-read their own buyers which is mainly blue-collar workers and have not bought into the EV thing. GM sells to higher income folks and those more tech savvy. Ford is going to have issues over the next few years as they have not properly planned for EVs and battery production, so costs remain very high unlike GM which did plan. At least they are not Toyota that bet on Hydrogen and lost. Korea is going to eat the Japanese auto business for EVs.

Do not forget that she was close friends with the late Micheal Jackson. Elizabeth Taylor was to me far more lovely than Marlyn Manroe, but again that is person preference for brunettes over blondes, I guess. Course @oldshurst442 knows what I was really meaning by my comment. I find her very lovely and a nice watch to boot!

Woman and Snakes, what are you trying to really say olds?

Just as fire departments have learned how to use gasoline foam to put out an auto fire, I have read that the fire departments are working with suppliers to understand the updated foam needs to deal with EVs. My take is that like anything, we learn how best to deal with the new type of fires. Just like in the early 1900's when an auto did catch on fire, water did not always put it out and as such investment into new processes had to be done to find a better way to deal with a gas fire. I believe the same is here with batteries, new ways will be figured out. Course like Mercedes, even GM is working to ensure that the battery cells have minimal ability to ignite. Solid-state batteries will remove this fire issue all together I believe.

This cracks me up, Toyota is trying to rewrite history about their focus on EVs and battery development. Supposedly been doing battery research on Solid-states since 2006. Love the writers comment on how Toyota is smelling it's own Hydrogen Farts since that was the focus on the now retired CEO and chariman of the company. The new CEO has pretty much brought the Gas thing to a close as he focuses on the world change to EVs. Toyota is in last place now, but has the deep money pockets to catch up if they do it right. Right now Toyota / Subaru EVs suck. Toyota joins race to bring solid-state batteries to mass production (electrek.co) Agree, just like me test fitting my large frame in the Kia EV9, I need to drive, test fit and check out the auto before I will buy. Jeep Grand Cherokee Hybrid would be good for you maybe! I would check to see if there are any IRA rebates on it too.

So true, it is amazing that people think because it is ICE it is powered differently on all the internal electronics from an EV. Plenty of lemmings in the world for sure compared to us auto nuts.

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What happens when you take a CALSTART Advanced Transportation graduate with a marketing and product development leader and connect them with Lee Iacocca, many others who are specialists in the EV industry and a connection to NASA? EV FOR EVERYONE (orbiselectric.com) You get a brain trust of individuals who have access to funding and additional folks that have helped set Bonneville Salt Flats speed records with a passion to help people convert to electric vehicles in minimal time. ORBIS ELECTRIC believes if there is a better way to allow folks to convert their vehicles to electric vehicles in minimal time, that the adding of gigatons of CO2 to the atmosphere can be slowed down and eventually stopped. Orbis Cofounder Marcus Hays and Chance Claxton believe that the hurdle to EV adoption is not the vehicles, but the parts. Orbis electric has reinvented the wheel to deliver EV for EVERYONE! They are the designer and creator of automotive parts engineered to radically accelerate the global conversion to electric vehicles. Their guiding principle is hyper-efficiency, resulting in affordable solutions that bring immediate and lasting benefits to consumers, OEMs, and the planet. How does this work you ask, simple, Orbis patented ring-wheel and disk brake assembly re-engineered the architecture of conventional internal combustion engines (ICE) by distributing the power and weight across 2-4 in-wheel motorized spindle inserts. The two current packages offered are the EV IN A BOX/160 (120kW/160hp) EV IN A BOX/560 (420kW/560hp) Revolutionary by Design Ready to go assembly for rapid EV conversion of passenger and Class 1-8 vehicles 40%-70% fuel mileage gain Instantaneous torque Runs on 110V, can charge anywhere; LDVs require no more than household current Innovative battery design, allows stacks and swaps Proven 10% more efficient, 25% lighter, which equate to 35% better range over current EVs Architecture frees up space and weight for cargo or passengers Smaller mass and lighter weight, no unsprung weight penalty Transform fleets and solo ICE vehicles into fuel efficient, emissions compliant EVs and Hybrids for pennies on the dollar Environmentally Driven Performance ORBIS Products are positioned to meet the new EURO 7 regulations on emissions which are the toughest in the world. We have covered their EV in a box conversion package that Orbis has stated can be done by company certified installation experts in 3hrs or less at a starting cost of $7,500. Orbis also has what they call their ECOWAVE brake. The Orbis hyper-efficient ECOWAVE brake operates as a freestanding brake, providing lighter, cooler, safer and greener alternative to traditional brakes. EcoWave is the first in a line of Orbis Brakes designed for each market segment, covering EVs, PHEVs and traditional ICE vehicles. 50% reduction in brake assembly mass, reducing overall weight and manufacturing costs 50% smaller brake pad yields 50% fewer brake dust particles 25% reduction in brake temperatures prevents additional brake dust and Non-Exhaust emissions ZERO dangerous brake fade June 5th 2022 was when Orbis Electric and NASA announced the EVOWAVE, but now the products are finally shipping. 6522-Orbis-Brakes-Debut-Press-Release.pdf (orbisbrakes.com) According to the financials about Orbis Electric, the company is a private company, founded in 2014 by 3 private investors and has 20 employees. They are located in Santa Rosa, California. The company has 39 patents filed, with 7 granted to date and has stated the following 4 things is what drives the company. Orbis approach is to be a lighter EV package compared to today's heavy solutions, be cooler for the environment while producing less brake dust, greener by supplying longer range, lower emissions, and a smaller carbon footprint and smarter by offering the first comprehensive EV solution that fits in a box. Are you ready to join the EV revolution and consider possibly converting your current ICE to EV with EV IN A BOX? Many folks that have thought about converting their favorite auto to EV have hit the same wall as just about everyone else. A complete solution that makes it easy to undertake this project as till today, there has been no real boxed solution, just various EV resellers of parts and while they have tried their best to direct you to all one needs, there has always been what have I forgotten to have a complete EV conversion solution. View full article

Thank you for posting this, great video! Should be watched by all.

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Cox Automotive group released their Q3 2023 EV sales for the automotive industry in the United States showing that in Q3 EV sales jumped past 300,000 for the first time in the U.S. market. EV sales through September reached just over 873,000 which puts the market on track to surpass 1 million EV sales. This milestone is estimated to be reached some time in November. Q3 EV sales estimates are 313,086 EV sales, a 49.8% increase over the same period last year. This is an increase from the 298,039 EVs sold in Q2. Sales of EVs posted noticeable gains over 2022 with Hyundai, Nissan, Volvo and Mercedes having a 200% increase in EV sales thanks to the new products they released to market. Total industry sales in Q3 showed EVs had a 7.9% market share. This is up from 6.1% a year ago and 7.2% in Q2 2023. As pointed out by Cox, EV sales have now had 13 straight quarters of increased sales. EV transaction prices were down in Q3 compared to a year ago with most of this due to Tesla slashing prices to increase sales. Prices are now down 25% across the board for all EVs year over year. While price cuts helped Tesla grow their sales which is showing a 19.5% year over year increase and an industry overall growth rate of 16.3% this does come with the downside that Tesla has lost market share hitting 50% as more EV options from competitors hits the sales room. Tesla had a 70 plus % market share ending 2022, closed out Q1 2023 at 62% and now closes Q3 with a 50% market share. German luxury makers showed rapid EV sales as Audi, BMW, and Mercedes showed a tripling of sales year over year with Audi posting the largest increase of a 94% sales increase in EV sales. While we have the 100% club of Fisker, Rivian, Tesla and Vinfast who only sell EVs, the rest of the automotive industry is a mix of ICE and EV sales and as such was led by BMW who closed out Q3 with 15.6% of their auto sales being EVs in the U.S.. In 2020 the U.S. had sold just 250,000 EVs with the bulk of that being Tesla. Three years later we are primed for EV sales crossing 1 million sold. Tesla still is the undisputed leader in EV sales, but their market share is dwindling. The coming flood of EV models over the next 18 to 24 months have analyst forecasting a doubling of EV models offered and a major shift in marketshare for every auto company. Full details of the sales report can be read here: Q3-2023-Kelley-Blue-Book-Electric-Vehicle-Sales-Report.pdf The key takeaway for Q3 is that EV transaction prices are down 22% with an average transaction price of $50,683 paid in September. This on top of other companies rapid increase in sales such as Rivian who delivered 15,564 EVs for Q3 representing a 126% increase year over year. GM began deliveries of the Silverado EV with 18 units delivered at the end of September. View full article

I would totally disagree with him as rental is a great way for people to explore and try out the EVs. Usually good rental experience will lead to future purchases.

What site told you this or did you get it in email? That is very weird, I have never seen it before.

October 2023 the IRS released this clarification that the Inflation Reduction Act will offer the provision that allows consumers to transfer their credit to the car dealer, instantly reducing the purchase price of new and used EVs at the time of sale. Registration Requirements PDF rp-23-33.pdf This guidance also provides proposed eligibility rules for the previously owned clean vehicles credit. End result is that ELIGIBLE CONSUMERS may transfer the full value of the new or previously owned EV credit regardless of their individual tax liability to the dealership. Per the IRS press release: “President Biden’s Investing in America agenda is focused on lowering transportation costs for consumers and giving American car companies the tools to lead the market,” said Chief Implementation Officer for the Inflation Reduction Act Laurel Blatchford. “For the first time, the Inflation Reduction Act allows consumers to reduce the up-front cost of a clean vehicle, expanding consumer choices and helping car dealers expand their businesses. The IRS has focused on streamlining this process for car dealers as part of its commitment to improving service and helping taxpayers claim the credits they are eligible for.” Later in the month of October, the IRS will allow auto dealerships to register via the IRS Energy Credits Online, this new website will allow the dealerships to signup and take part of this new instant rebate program that the IRS has stated will be a 72 hr turnaround for the dealerships to get the rebate deposited into their bank account. Benefits for the consumers are that the rebate will be instantly taken off the agreed too purchase price reducing the amount they need to pay via finance, cash or lease. Full details for those wishing to read the long winded and dry IRS press release is here: Inflation Reduction Act Rebates So what do you think about this Instant Rebate for EVs? Good Idea? Will it Jump Start EV sales? Sound off and let the debate begin! View full article

Yes, they apply to both buying and leasing, this is how Hyundai, Kia and Genesis are able to offer the $7,500 rebate on their EVs. As they ramp up production in the US, many of this model year are from Korea and so only leasing gets the rebate, next year they will produce all their EVs in the US having the rebate for both buying and leasing. Cool thing is all those new EVs made in Korea that do not sell can be turned into demo EV's and then sold as used with the $4,000 rebate even when they were made out of the country. Plenty of ways to get around the U.S. built only for new sales rebate.

Yes, for me I always hated the idea that you had to wait till the end of the year to get your credit and you had to finance and pay the full amount when it should have been a rebate all along. Now with January 1 2024 the credit becoming an instant rebate at the point of purchase, EVs sales should take off and of course as you pointed out, $4,000 rebate for used EVs makes it very enticing. Another point is that if you have both a 220V outlet for a dryer as well as Natural Gas, and like me your not using the 220V as I use Natural Gas Dryer, then I can easily use that as a home charger circuit breaker to have it in my garage and just change the location. Very excited for this rebate, next year could be the year for my first EV.

Very cool that the EV rebates for new and used as well as Leasing vehicles becomes an instant rebate at the dealership starting in 2024. EV tax credit becomes instant dealership rebate in 2024: Here's how (greencarreports.com)

Very cool, the rebates become instant starting in 2024 for EV purchases of new and used vehicles plus leasing. EV tax credit becomes instant dealership rebate in 2024: Here's how (greencarreports.com)