G. David Felt

@balthazar What are your thoughts on the 1953 Chrysler Special Ghia https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2020/08/rare-rides-the-1953-chrysler-special-by-ghia/ Interesting looking 2door car. Interesting on FCA's production dates for 3 row Jeeps. https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2020/08/production-dates-revealed-for-newest-biggest-jeeps/

It is good to see you back, since the last time you visited, this is the first in a while that SMK has tried to move a thread about a product into all about MB crap again. I hope to see you pop in and comment on other threads. Like what I am seeing for Hummer by GMC of the truck and SUV so far. Comment there please on what you think about those auto's. Glad to see you pop in here to comment on the LYRIQ.

This is an interesting read on why the LYRIQ is NOT for the US market. We might never actually get it since there is no confirmed production in the US, only China. The US seems destined to get the Hummer by GMC brand for sure which is not slated for China. This brings up an Interesting thought, if LYRIQ is not for the US, but really only China where Cadillac has a strong growth and GMC does not exist, Could GMC become the big luxury brand in the US as Cadillac goes away to China only? Could we see a Chevrolet / Buick / GMC future of the US? One would hope that Cadillac would become the true Luxury only brand it once was and that anything below the $60 to $70 K level is left to Buick/GMC dealerships. https://www.thedrive.com/tech/35466/the-cadillac-lyriq-leads-gms-electric-luxury-future-but-its-not-really-for-you

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That might be true here in the US, but in Korea where diesel cars make up the bulk of the actual pedestrian auto's, that is being changed by mandate. Diesel cars starting Dec 1st 2019 were banned from Seoul streets from 6am to 9pm to help clean up the air with this to expand into Gangnam and Yeouido by 2021. This will then expand to include grade 4 vehicles by 2030. Now that is updated based on the original story I posted above on a total ban. Diesel in Korea will go down as the country embraces a required change to EV and Hydrogen. This is the gov mandate. http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20191125000881

Why should they cut models when you have always stated they are the most profitable auto company around and will always have the most diverse portfolio. That would imply they should have no problem continuing to sell non-profitable cars.

Wrong, reviewing multiple auto news sites, they all seem to have one consistent thing in common. S-Class sedan is set to make an appearance in September 2020 with on sale date as a 2021 starting Jan 2021 due to the Pandemic. This is the real clear NOTE to pay attention too: Christoph Starzynski, the EQS chief engineer, says it already feels like an S-Class and that the team is hitting its targets. When will the EQS go into production? Starzynski said it will probably be "two more years", which means that it may only arrive as a 2023 model and give the all-new S-Class plenty of time to lay the foundation for the next generation of Mercedes flagship luxury sedans. That means at the Earliest we will see this out in the 2022 calendar year here in the US. Considering how much both Mercedes-Benz and BMW have launched their EV's as a Global auto to then state it will be China First, Europe and then the US. Battery production delays, now teaming up with CATL so that they have Production close to MB manufacturing, yet that plant is only in construction phase now with production to start at the end of 2021. The EQ has been delayed multiple times due to two main reasons, they state demand in China and Europe have outstripped production, but then came back and said now that battery supply is not allowing them to start production and sales in the US. They cannot make the EQ a Global on sale auto, how will they make the EQS when they do not have production up and running yet. Clearly the EQS is a 2022 as a 2023 at the earliest production EV here in the US if they even ever get the EQ here. MB EV's are Vapor products on the Global stage right now. Cadillac LYRIQ will be a China first product, then brought to the US. From there maybe the rest of the world, but GM has only Committed to China / Asian rim and the US for their EV products. On top of this, Daimler has stated in 2020 the only all electric product in production is the SmartCar, first company to go all pure EV from ICE. https://www.daimler.com/innovation/case/electric/eq-production-hambach.html They state they plan to have 10 to 15 EV's in production by 2022. 1st have to get battery production going 2nd actually have to get the presales of their EQ EV produced and delivered in China and Europe, forget the US, no on sale date per their own MBUSA web site. 3rd have to actually have product here, they have stated they are investing in the US with battery production here, but that is not slated to be completed till Q1 2022. So the earliest would be Q1 2022 for EV production and sales here. Reminder, May 7th 2019 MB had their news release that Sales would start as would production soon, yet still nothing available for reviews in Europe or China of the EQC yet. https://www.daimler.com/investors/reports-news/financial-news/20190507-eqc.html MB announced in 2017 a $1 billion investment in their Tuscaloosa facilities with the bulk being for EV production that would start early next Decade. Being after 2020 and yet to date they have only increased for production of CUVs, electric investment has only recently started with some expansion of their buildings but nothing to date stated as production of battery packs or actual auto's yet. With their only head of Engineering stating 2 years at the earliest to come to market behind the new S-Class again this goes inline with having a 2022 year release at the earliest. https://www.daimler.com/company/locations/tuscaloosa/

CORRECTION, via multiple sources, on sale some time first half of 2021 with deliveries by the end of 2021 start of 2022. That means the EQS will either be a very late 2022 model year or early 2023. About the same time frame as the Cadillac being delivered since you can pre-order it starting this fall with a deposit, final pricing to determine cost in 2021 or so. Not much difference than what Tesla, Ford or anyone else is really doing. Same with the Hummer by GMC this fall.

Totally Agree, none of that is CGI, it is all real compared to what MB had shown before their autoshow with the EQS. I do love how the front lights up when you unlock the auto. Interior is awesome!!!

At this same stage for MB on the EQS, everything was computer simulation also, but from what they have shown we already know that the bulk of the interior is real including the dash which is from the new Escalade. This is already superior to what has been seen out of MB.

All the writeups including the latest one from wardsauto is saying as a 2023 model year, meaning this auto will be out late spring, summer 2022 or 1 and 1/2 years away, not 2.5. If GM stays on this course, they will still deliver the LYRIQ way faster than MB has delivered the EQS.

Diesel in Public sector cars will see their death in 2025 as Seoul Korea moves to ban Diesel in all public-sector autos. What this specifically means is that all cars, vans and mass transit fleets will have to retire to the junk yard for recycling all Diesel auto's. This will help Seoul accelerate their transition to green mobility. Seoul public sector auto fleet that consists of taxis, buses, government transit auto's makes up 64.6% of the on road auto's. This means that their "No Diesel" initiative to clean up the air for their citizens will require 3,586 auto's to be replaced by electric and or hydrogen version auto's. Seoul Korea is working with carmakers on development of Fire trucks, Ambulances, cleaning vehicles, garbage trucks, etc. to finish replacing the last of the public sector auto's that make up the current total fleet of 1,567 auto's in Seoul. In all they are looking to replace 5,153 public sector diesel auto's. Seoul is also introducing 4,000 additional electric and hydrogen buses by 2025 in expanding the fleet to help reduce private auto's on the road and speed up moving people around. The government says they are on track to have 30% of the diesel buses replaced with e-buses by the start of 2023. They are also increasing public awareness via various campaigns on the benefits to the publics health by replacing diesel with EV / Hydrogen. https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20200731007900315

Seems Biden, a GM Corvette fan might have let slip that a C8 Electric Corvette is being worked on and coming with a 200 plus MPH top speed. Seems the presidential candidate believes that an EV market could revitalize the US Auto industry in ways that have not been accomplished with ICE. https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1129154_biden-200-mph-electric-corvette-us-can-own-the-ev-market

But is that a bad thing? Logically we have Buick doing what it should and that is mid level luxury to entry level high end. At this point, why not have Cadillac be that TRUE LUXURY brand. I see no reason for Buick and Cadillac to fight it out in the same 30 to 60 K range.

@Drew Dowdell CONGRATULATIONS! That is a Beauty!!!

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Daimler has entered Phase two of expanded Heavy Duty EV semi truck testing in Germany. https://www.just-auto.com/news/daimler-starts-second-phase-of-ev-heavy-truck-tests_id197096.aspx

Yet I doubt the majority here myself included could tell these were E class and not S or C class. Having Family DNA is one thing, having all levels of a product line blur into each other is another. MB has blurred all levels badly.

What depressing auto news happened today Balthazar? Sorry Drew to hijack the thread, just wanting to hear what happened.

OK, trying to NOT overthink this, Jeep Grand Cherokee which model year has the 3G Uconnect system.

? So just found a writeup on how to identify your Ford 3G, 4G and 6G alternators. https://alternatorparts.com/ford-type-3g-4g-6g-series-high-output-alternators.html That makes me think an F-150 Crew cab pickup with a trailer hitch for his rack to hold his bike.

The 3G makes me think Escalade EXT which had 3G cell connectivity. ? Wonder what other auto's in that list had 3G........

So the MB GLS?

So what is your guess???????????????? ?