G. David Felt

This is all ASSUMPTION, there is no facts here, Your making assumptions based on past autos and NO just cause they are on the same platform does not mean they will have the same power. Cars are not SUVc just as SUVs are not cars. They are two very different dynamic bodies and handling traits.

Prove this as there is NOTHING on the Global or USA media sites about this and the selling sites only cover 2022 both regular GLC and AMG. The Mid-Size AMG GLC SUV | Mercedes-Benz USA (mbusa.com) 2022 GLC 300 & 300 4MATIC 255 hp / 273 lb-ft of torque 2022 AMG GLC 43 is 385 hp / 384 lb-ft of torque No 2022 AMG GLC 63 model The 2023 GLC for either model is 255hp or 278 in boosted mode with 295 lb-ft of torque or 418 lb-ft of torque in boosted mode. Sadly this will rarely ever happen as the details in the press release say in specific use cases will the hybrid 23 hp / 123 lb-ft of torque be added to the ICE system, such as aggressive take offs from a dead start, high speed passing, etc. So while this new powertrain is a little bit better than the old model, not much better and based on the engineering info they have released, there is no way this Hybrid system in the GLC will deliver 700 hp with over 800 lb-ft of torque let alone 800 hp with over 1000 lb-ft of torque. Please provide actual web links to back up this claim. Here is their Future 2023 GLC webpage: 2023 Mercedes-Benz GLC SUV | Future Vehicles | Mercedes-Benz USA (mbusa.com) No mention of AMG versions yet. This is the only actual webpage working that talks about a 43 and 64 AMG GLC version with hypothetical numbers being more aggressive than the existing auto and a possible upgrade in electric motor. 2023 Mercedes-AMG GLC 43 New Performance Crossover In The Works | Mercedes-Benz Worldwide (mercedes-world.com) They also clearly state also that the new 2023 GLC will only under very high-load situations use the mild hybrid HP/Torque. So not much of a hybrid at all.

@oldshurst442 @ccap41 2024 Hyundai Ioniq 5 N Is No Mere Carbon-Copy Kia (caranddriver.com) Seems while they are not ready to give any firm statistics, the N Performance Edition will be north of 600 HP and they are definitly not just coping the Kia EV6 GT which is only 576 HP.

OUCH and the Ford recalls keep coming. This time, a retainer bolt on the inside of the steering box fails and causes the steering box to lock up. All 2023 Broncos are on a do not deliver, do not drive list awaiting replacement parts. Ford Issues 2023 Bronco ‘Do Not Deliver-Do Not Drive’ Order (msn.com)

Seems Bollinger Motors has stopped trying to build SUV/Truck for personal use and is focused on the commercial market as they have moved forward with producting mid-size commercial EVs. The B4 at Work Truck Week 2023 (mailchi.mp) They still talk about the SUV and Truck that led them to their B5 commercial trucks they are building now. So I guess everyone that put down reservations on the Bollinger SUV/Truck lost out. Electric Truck Manufacturers - Electric Heavy Duty Truck (bollingermotors.com)

Where are you getting the AMG numbers? Both the USA and Global Media website has nothing on the all-new AMG versions yet. These appear to be the old model numbers.

Seems someone slipped as it no longer shows on the Cadillac Accessory website, but good chance we will see a V edition of the LYRIQ. Internal Leak Suggests Cadillac Lyriq-V Is Coming For 2024 Model Year (cadillacsociety.com)

Not sure what you are meaning, I did not exclude any of the vehicles. Cadillac is not the lead auto here but is in the leading group. Guess my wording was confusing.

That would be like an Eagle sedan then, right?

At least they are racing cars they make. Not auto related, but I was cracking up laughing at the lack of being able to explain what Woke is in this interview by one that attacks woke people. ‘This is Gonna Be One of Those Moments That Goes Viral’: Conservative Pundit Short-Circuits When Asked to Define ‘Wokeness’ (msn.com)

Agree that the outside style leaves much to be desired but as myself and others here have stated, the warm two-tone interior is nice. I have mixed feelings about the dash and their HUD. The exterior style reminds me that they ripped off BMW coupe SUV design and then watered down to fit their jellybean style of the EVs.

@oldshurst442 @Robert Hall I get both of your points your making, I think for some auto companies or at least certain brands, we will still see cars, just in limited numbers. At least we have Hyundai/Kia doing EV cars as well as Cadillac from what they have stated is coming and of course VW. So I think for those that want a car, there will be options, probably AWD car options.

We are a multi-cultural world and if the idiot politicians cannot get over the move by society to various languages or the business standard of using English, they will hurt and fall behind society losing out and humans will move leaving them behind for forward growth elsewhere. Morons in my book.

I honestly think EVs will allow OEMs to produce cars as well as the SUV/Truck market.

WOW, racers bend frame and still win their class. Chevy Colorado ZR2 Race Truck Bends Frame, Still Wins Class (gmauthority.com)

Very cool, Cadillac is leading the luxury segment in selling XT4 class SUVs. Cadillac XT4 Sales Outpace BMW, Mercedes, Acura In Q4 2022 (gmauthority.com)

WOW, BMW FAILURE for the M Badge EV. 2023 BMW iX M60 Driving Notes: Excellent In Theory (motor1.com)

LOL, this was too funny to read. Toyota Hydrogen Racecar Pulled When One Thing You Don't Want to Happen Did Using This Fuel (motorbiscuit.com) Leaking fuel in the engine bay created fire, safety valves shut off to protect the driver, but still not worth the risk and especially when you consider the following as to why Hydrogen will never replace Gas or EVs. 80lbs of Gas needs 410 lbs of Hydrogen on top of the complexity of the Hydrogen auto. EVs just make more simple sense.

@oldshurst442 Seems Magna is expanding in your neck of the woods. Six site that will expand and create over 1,000 more jobs. Magna Announces New Facility and Expands in Five Other Locations Across Ontario to Support New Business Details of the new and expanding facilities include: Brampton: A new 490,000 square-foot leased facility to manufacture battery enclosures for electric vehicles. Operations to begin in Q2 2023, roughly 560 new jobs are expected at full production. Guelph: Magna is adding e-coat, molding and welding capacity to its exteriors plant to support new electric vehicle production. The expansion will total 120,000 square-feet, and production is planned to begin in Q2 2023. Approximately 175 new jobs are expected. Belleville: Magna’s lighting plant is adding to its capabilities for printed circuit board assemblies and will start operations in Q4 2023. Up to 100 new jobs are expected. Newmarket: Magna’s mechatronics facility which produces vehicle access systems including side door latches, electronic control units, and power systems – is growing its business and expects approximately 75 new jobs. Windsor: Magna’s mechatronics plant adds new business for powered aluminum tonneau covers. The facility has recently started those operations and is planning to add roughly 110 new jobs. Penetanguishene: Magna’s mechatronics facility is growing its tailgate hinges production and more than 15 new jobs are planned. Magna's SmartAccess Power Door System Hits the Market in Style Seems the Ferrari Purosangue will be the launch vehicle for these new SmartAccess doors. The system will launch with several other Asian and North American automakers in 2023. SmartAccess™ can also offer a host of additional consumer-related features including: Ability to customize the door feel to specific consumer desires, Gesture control allowing the wave of a hand to open or close the side door, Non-contact obstacle detection where the side doors can sense a post or adjacent vehicle and stop the door in a controlled manner, and Keypad for seamless keyless entry.

Standard MB external and engine, while I like the two-tone interior, I am unimpressed with the launching powertrain. Will be interesting to see what they do with it from the AMG standpoint. The current Hybrid does not lend itself to much improvement, so thinking this is all ICE which then takes away from being a hybrid. Be interesting to see when they do the AMG versions.

Have to say I find this press release of leading the way to be ROFLMAO funny. Collaborations Show There’s More to Electrification Than BEVs - Toyota USA Newsroom The press release talks about how Toyota is building leadership collaborations with charging stations companies and software companies that will allow future ease of management of your EV. @oldshurst442 @ccap41 Thought you guys might like this. Hyundai is planning to bring racing success to their company with their class racing wins starting with Daytona and expecting to continue with racing at the Sebring. Hyundai Primed for Success in Sebring - Hyundai Newsroom

BMW news, a 5 series EV will be revealed October 2023. Digital, dynamic, and now also fully electric: the BMW 5 Series enters a new era. (bmwgroup.com) BMW is also rolling out in their product line of ICE/EV a all-new Panoramic Vision HUD. The BMW Panoramic Vision. (bmwgroup.com) This all-new HUD will be across the complete bottom of the windshield. Drivers view Passengers view Last teaser before the final seventh model is revealed on the 20th of March. Stellantis Media - ‘Last Call’ Countdown: Teaser Video No. 4 — ‘HEMI® Vice’ (stellantisnorthamerica.com)

Mercedes-Benz has announced the all-new GLC SUV for sale and highlighted the following: Combining elegant design with sporty driving performance Electrified mild hybrid powertrain Extensive suite of standard features Latest generation of MBUX infotainment system with expanded functionality The all-new GLC SUV will com in two core models, GLC 300 SUV and GLC 300 4MATIC SUV. There will be two uplevel trims available; Exclusive and Pinnacle. Each trim level will feature a set comfort and technology level. Optional packaged will be available allowing customers to customize their SUV to their lifestyle needs. The exterior design of the all-new GLC SUV will be immediately recognizable as a Mercedes-Benz family member as the ICE/Hybrid/EV merge family style. From the front redesigned LED headlights connecting directly to the radiator grille, emphasizing the vehicles width, to the full spanned surface designed to accentuate the muscular wheel arches and create a elegant yet off-road performance presence. Trim levels at a glance: The above pricing does not include the required $1,150 destination and delivery fee. The 2023 GLC SUV will have the standard hybrid powertrain: Turbocharged 4-cylinder engine with 2nd generation ISG (integrated starter generator) 48-volt mild hybrid system 255 hp - 295 lb-ft of torque ICE / 23 hp - 148 lb-ft of torque electric system that is added to the ICE powertrain during certain driving conditions, allowing gliding with the engine switched off and recuperation of energy to the hybrid system. The interior is where you will find the biggest changes in this all-new GLC SUV. Mercedes starts with offering 13 available upholsteries in MB-tex, leather, and Nappa leather, as well as a number of new trims that include Glossy Brown Ash Wood, Natural Grain Black Wood with Aluminum lines and Metal Weave. Two-tone interiors is the standard. The GLC SUV interior will be sporty featuring a new floating 12.3-inch digital instrument panel along with an 11.9-inch central display that rises seamlessly from the center console and is angled towards the driver. This system will have the latest generation MBUX infotainment system, including the "Transparent Hood" giving a 360 surround view in the GLC 300 4MATIC. When in off-road mode at low speeds, the "Transparent Hood" will also offer a view under the front of the vehicle on the central display, this includes the front wheels and steering position, allowing recognition of potential obstacles. A Head-up Display system comes standard with the Pinnacle Trim level. Sky roof is an option on the GLC SUV. The GLC SUV according to Mercedes-Benz is north americas best selling SUV in their lineup for 2022, the 2023 all-new generation GLC SUV will arrive in Dealerships Spring 2023 to continue this trend. View full article

Cadillac has stated they will have cars, this year we get the Escalade EV, the XT6 equal EV and the first EV Car for the brand as a CT replacement.